<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: How Can We Be Frugal and Socially Conscious Consumers?</title> <atom:link href="http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/</link> <description>Frugal Living, News, Lifestyle and Random Thoughts From Forest and Friends</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:35:09 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Forest</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8299</link> <dc:creator>Forest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8299</guid> <description>@Overnight Cash Advance - Hey thanks for the comment. Yeah trade is great and as far as I know the tax man can&#039;t gt involved (not sure about Alcohol though!).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Overnight Cash Advance &#8211; Hey thanks for the comment. Yeah trade is great and as far as I know the tax man can&#8217;t gt involved (not sure about Alcohol though!).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Forest</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8293</link> <dc:creator>Forest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8293</guid> <description>Hey everyone, thanks for the comments so far.@Simon, Hey thanks for stopping by. &quot;Don’t do all the change at once&quot;, that&#039;s sensible advice and we all need to make sure we don&#039;t take on too much at once. The ToDo list situation is the same as mine! Not enough hours in the day. As for trading, most places have a LETs scheme in place. Not sure in Montreal if they have one, but it&#039;s a system where people trade services for other things. So someone may need a self portrait from you and you get credits (agreed by you and the person who needs your service) and you can spend these credits with other people in the LETs scheme. Like money but not quite :) @Joan, Thanks for the comment. The domino effect of boycotting is definitely a large issue at hand here too. As you say entire economies rely on certain products and if we stop buying many locals could be worse off than they already are. As for a list, that is something I will try and get together. In the meantime Knowmore.org is a great resource.As for making things, for a start Food. Almost any dish purchased frozen can be made better homemade. Then there are things around the home and garden. DIY shows were all the fad for a few years and in general people are a lot more handy than they used to be.... Or at least think they are. Me, I am pretty useless at certain things but always willing to have a try :).@Sue, Joan said the same thing about boycotting and it&#039;s a hard subject. If we didn&#039;t need the crap they produce in the first place then these people would still have farmland on the sites of the factories and such! However they are there now and there does need to be a way to simply improve conditions. However for the long term survival of the planet we need to look at how this over consumption is affecting everything!Here in Egypt I am shocked at the level of comsumption and overuse. I assumed it was very much an American thing (Ok and the UK too :) ) but the Egyptian&#039;s could go toe to toe with any American in a useless shopping competition!One thing that is good about Egypt though is the grass roots recycling system. There is a place called Garbage City where all the trash ends up. The residents sort through all non-organic waste and work out what can be re-purposed, sold on, used for something else and whats not. Much less actually ends up in the landfill than you might expect.@Plastic Sleeves, Yes yard sales are an excellent way to make sure items get their use. Too many people throw things straight in the bin when done with them!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone, thanks for the comments so far.</p><p>@Simon, Hey thanks for stopping by. &#8220;Don’t do all the change at once&#8221;, that&#8217;s sensible advice and we all need to make sure we don&#8217;t take on too much at once. The ToDo list situation is the same as mine! Not enough hours in the day. As for trading, most places have a LETs scheme in place. Not sure in Montreal if they have one, but it&#8217;s a system where people trade services for other things. So someone may need a self portrait from you and you get credits (agreed by you and the person who needs your service) and you can spend these credits with other people in the LETs scheme. Like money but not quite <img src='http://s3.frugalzeitgeist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>@Joan, Thanks for the comment. The domino effect of boycotting is definitely a large issue at hand here too. As you say entire economies rely on certain products and if we stop buying many locals could be worse off than they already are. As for a list, that is something I will try and get together. In the meantime Knowmore.org is a great resource.</p><p>As for making things, for a start Food. Almost any dish purchased frozen can be made better homemade. Then there are things around the home and garden. DIY shows were all the fad for a few years and in general people are a lot more handy than they used to be&#8230;. Or at least think they are. Me, I am pretty useless at certain things but always willing to have a try <img src='http://s3.frugalzeitgeist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p><p>@Sue, Joan said the same thing about boycotting and it&#8217;s a hard subject. If we didn&#8217;t need the crap they produce in the first place then these people would still have farmland on the sites of the factories and such! However they are there now and there does need to be a way to simply improve conditions. However for the long term survival of the planet we need to look at how this over consumption is affecting everything!</p><p>Here in Egypt I am shocked at the level of comsumption and overuse. I assumed it was very much an American thing (Ok and the UK too <img src='http://s3.frugalzeitgeist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) but the Egyptian&#8217;s could go toe to toe with any American in a useless shopping competition!</p><p>One thing that is good about Egypt though is the grass roots recycling system. There is a place called Garbage City where all the trash ends up. The residents sort through all non-organic waste and work out what can be re-purposed, sold on, used for something else and whats not. Much less actually ends up in the landfill than you might expect.</p><p>@Plastic Sleeves, Yes yard sales are an excellent way to make sure items get their use. Too many people throw things straight in the bin when done with them!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Overnight Cash Advance</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8287</link> <dc:creator>Overnight Cash Advance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:52:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8287</guid> <description>Hello Forest,  I think your ideas of being frugal are great and very important. I love the one about trading with your neighbours; This summer I would go to the Farmers Market place in down town Salt Lake and do some trading. I picked up some amazing organic fresh tomatoes for some home made wine that my husband made.  It really was a fantastic trade and so worth it.  Keep up the great posting and I look forward to your next one!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Forest,  I think your ideas of being frugal are great and very important. I love the one about trading with your neighbours; This summer I would go to the Farmers Market place in down town Salt Lake and do some trading. I picked up some amazing organic fresh tomatoes for some home made wine that my husband made.  It really was a fantastic trade and so worth it.  Keep up the great posting and I look forward to your next one!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Plastic Sleeves</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8285</link> <dc:creator>Plastic Sleeves</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8285</guid> <description>I have been using a few of these ideas as well.  I find that I can remain frugal and reduce my impact on the earth by going to yard sales to purchase items that have been lightly used.  By doing this, I am not ordering the manufacture of more products and consuming more resources.I suppose that I can continue to do more, but it is a start.  A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.Best regards, Neil</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using a few of these ideas as well.  I find that I can remain frugal and reduce my impact on the earth by going to yard sales to purchase items that have been lightly used.  By doing this, I am not ordering the manufacture of more products and consuming more resources.</p><p>I suppose that I can continue to do more, but it is a start.  A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.</p><p>Best regards,<br /> Neil</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sue</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8283</link> <dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:46:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8283</guid> <description>The people in the sweatshops won&#039;t thank you for boycotting the goods they have slaved to make, without your custom they would have no job at all, as you pointed out.  The changes have to come from above, probably because of pressure from us lower ranking objectors! There are many who feel they have no choice but to buy these goods because of their situations, so the system cannot change over night. All you can do, as a single person in a very big wheel, is decide when and where it is appropriate for you to spend more to get an item that has been made conscientiously, or make your own. I love the fact that you have mentioned re-purposing.  In my day it was called make do and mend, but the effect is still the same, less goes to the landfill, and more money in your wallet!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people in the sweatshops won&#8217;t thank you for boycotting the goods they have slaved to make, without your custom they would have no job at all, as you pointed out.  The changes have to come from above, probably because of pressure from us lower ranking objectors!<br /> There are many who feel they have no choice but to buy these goods because of their situations, so the system cannot change over night.<br /> All you can do, as a single person in a very big wheel, is decide when and where it is appropriate for you to spend more to get an item that has been made conscientiously, or make your own.<br /> I love the fact that you have mentioned re-purposing.  In my day it was called make do and mend, but the effect is still the same, less goes to the landfill, and more money in your wallet!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joan</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8281</link> <dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:50:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8281</guid> <description>Hey Ian, I think you&#039;ve got some valid points here.  I do wonder about the idea of making your own things.  What kind of things did you have in mind?  Are you purchasing new items to create the final product?  If so, this may not be the most efficient or effective use of materials or your time.  There is also the long term impact on the economics of a global production system that does provide badly needed jobs for some third world countries who are dependent on international commerce. This ties in to the point you make in the last paragraph. How about posting a list of those factory&#039;s / countries with the worst working conditions and letting the individual consumer make the choice of &quot;to buy or not to buy&quot;. Joan</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ian,<br /> I think you&#8217;ve got some valid points here.  I do wonder about the idea of making your own things.  What kind of things did you have in mind?  Are you purchasing new items to create the final product?  If so, this may not be the most efficient or effective use of materials or your time.  There is also the long term impact on the economics of a global production system that does provide badly needed jobs for some third world countries who are dependent on international commerce. This ties in to the point you make in the last paragraph.<br /> How about posting a list of those factory&#8217;s / countries with the worst working conditions and letting the individual consumer make the choice of &#8220;to buy or not to buy&#8221;.<br /> Joan</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sim</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8280</link> <dc:creator>Sim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:41:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8280</guid> <description>Especially buy pre-owned (near you if you can) and trade. (In Quebec we have two local website for saling pre-own and trading stuf.) its not always easy to trade services with neighbors that don&#039;t  have a frugal philosophy, but  finding those  with who it is possible is a start.Build your stuff..I say yes  but don&#039;t get crazy. This years so many times I said that I could built it my self and end up with a giant to do list. I think its relative of your time.But I do agree that these are the way of the future and conter act the major corp corruption abuse and aggressive capitalism.The main thing is to Don&#039;t do all the change at once. But like you said one step at a time take a good habit and after a while accumulate those habit so it become casual.and slowly others will do the same and so generation that fallow us.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Especially buy pre-owned (near you if you can) and trade.<br /> (In Quebec we have two local website for saling pre-own and trading stuf.)<br /> its not always easy to trade services with neighbors that don&#8217;t  have a frugal philosophy, but  finding those  with who it is possible is a start.</p><p>Build your stuff..I say yes  but don&#8217;t get crazy. This years so many times<br /> I said that I could built it my self and end up with a giant to do list.<br /> I think its relative of your time.</p><p>But I do agree that these are the way of the future and conter act the major corp corruption abuse and aggressive capitalism.</p><p>The main thing is to Don&#8217;t do all the change at once. But like you said one<br /> step at a time take a good habit and after a while accumulate those habit so it become casual.</p><p>and slowly others will do the same and so generation that fallow us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mike</title><link>http://frugalzeitgeist.com/how-can-we-be-frugal-and-socially-conscious-consumers/#comment-8279</link> <dc:creator>mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://frugalzeitgeist.com/?p=431#comment-8279</guid> <description>knowmore.org sounds interesting... thanks. Mike</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>knowmore.org sounds interesting&#8230; thanks. Mike</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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